A Knight in Dragonland

Crossing the River

And Now … Nazis

August 2nd, 2007 · 33 Comments
Racism

My most recent Jake Grys post garnered two “interesting” comments from our friendly neighborhood Nazis. I believe this is probably the work of the same adolescent Matt Hale wannabes that were harassing local blogger Ollie Nanyes, proprietor of the blog “blueollie.”

I deleted the comments from the post about Jake. Mr. Hitler Lover’s choice of that particular post to make his comments was in extremely poor taste, in my opinion. How much of a cad do you have to be to proselytize for your hate group on a post about a sweet 7 year old boy with a rare genetic condition predisposing him to frequent painful fractures? I guess Jake’s criminal excess of melanin makes it alright in this hateful boy’s eyes.

Disgusting.

However, so that I don’t get accused of unfair censorship, here’s what the swastika-waver had to say …

Comment 1:

Since i couldnt comment in the racist thread. Ill say this here. Were here in Central IL and we are gogint o have a giant unit before long.

Comment 2:

are here* going to*

Am I supposed to be scared? Intimidated? Impressed?

{yawn}

The commenter, whose Blogger profile is named “14Phil88″, runs a blog called the Illinois National Socialist News. If you want to see it, Google it. I’m certainly not going to link there.



33 responses so far ↓

  • 1    IL ANSWP // Aug 2, 2007 at 12:39 am

    1. I didnt even read that post, I just hit the one at the top of the page. There is no intimidation involed. I just thought since there were hundreds of people commenting, oy vey, through a bitch fit, that they might want to know. We here, and were not leaving!

    14/88

  • 2    Anon E. Mouse // Aug 2, 2007 at 11:41 am

    14/88 sez: “We here, and were not leaving!”

    I sez: Well, I guess stupid is as stupid does.

  • 3    Vonster // Aug 2, 2007 at 12:21 pm

    AHM IN YER BLOG SPELLIN MY WURDZ

    LOL.

    I’m on your team for this one, Dr. Knight.

  • 4    PeoriaIllinoisan // Aug 2, 2007 at 12:41 pm

    Pretty sad when you have to announce that you are against Illinois Nazis.

  • 5    Eyebrows McGee // Aug 2, 2007 at 12:44 pm

    Fuckin’ Illinois Nazis.

    (And Vonster knows lolcatz! Rock on!)

  • 6    Vonster // Aug 2, 2007 at 4:33 pm

    I can haz cheeseburger?

  • 7    Michelle // Aug 2, 2007 at 5:14 pm

    It’s hard not to notice that most racists appear to have about a third-grade education, at best. Most racists are so freaking stupid they cannot spell even easy words. They feel inferior to everyone, so they have to seize on the fact of their lighter pigmentation as the basis of their self-esteem. I’d probably feel sad for these people … if I didn’t hate them so much instead.

  • 8    Jeannie Grys // Aug 2, 2007 at 6:19 pm

    Maybe Jake could tutor them in spelling? LOL

  • 9    Jeannie Grys // Aug 2, 2007 at 6:21 pm

    I forgot to add, no hating allowed, that lowers us to their level. We choose to pity and ignore.

  • 10    knightindragonland // Aug 2, 2007 at 7:54 pm

    Well said, Jeannie … it is truly pitiful.

    I’m sure Jake could teach this hate-filled youngster quite a few lessons about what life should be about. Unfortunately, I doubt he’d listen.

  • 11    Rob Stanley // Aug 2, 2007 at 8:12 pm

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    88!

  • 12    ollie // Aug 2, 2007 at 8:56 pm

    Hey Knight, thanks for taking a stand.

    As far as this Nazi; well, I’d rather live in a country that allows free speech even if it means putting up with a bit of idiotic noise from time to time.

  • 13    Darren // Aug 2, 2007 at 9:28 pm

    Well, Michelle, I can’t vouch for every person of a particular viewpoint, but there is certainly more to a person than how they spell online. I believe this relates to a term that your kind likes to throw out a lot: prejudice.

    I don’t expect you to agree with our point-of-view on race, but you should at least make a basic attempt to understand it. I could care less about skin color. I am firstly concerned about members of my race, which is not defined by skin color but by common geographically developed genetic ancestry. Otherwise, albino negroes would be my brothers too :)

    I can assure you I have no inferiority complex, as a neo-nazi racist. I just recognize certain facts of life about the IQ, crime rates, and accomplishments of my race and other races.

  • 14    Darren // Aug 2, 2007 at 9:31 pm

    knightindragonland, I would love to hear your “lessons” on what life should be about.

  • 15    Oklahoma! « blueollie // Aug 2, 2007 at 9:33 pm

    [...] has unwelcome attention from local Nazis on his blog. For those not from Central Illinois: “Knight” refers to a Peoria High [...]

  • 16    IL ANSWP // Aug 2, 2007 at 10:04 pm

    Darren all they can do is say we have low IQ, were haters, and the only reason we dont like them is becasue thier skin is different. They have no real arguements.

  • 17    X-24 // Aug 2, 2007 at 10:08 pm

    Michelle said …

    It’s hard not to notice that most racists appear to have “about” a third-grade education…(Error) at best. (Error) Most racists are so freaking stupid they cannot spell even easy words. (Wow) You completed an error free sentence) Very Good!

    They feel inferior to everyone,(error) so they have to seize on the fact of their lighter pigmentation as (error) the basis of their self-esteem. I’d (error) probably feel sad for these people … if I didn’t hate them so much instead.(error) Instead of what?
    ========================

    Not sure if I should ‘flame you’ or laugh at your self-induced intellectual superiority.

    Michelle, perhaps you could ask someone with a
    “third-grade education” to explain basic verb & preposition combinations.

    Not flaming but laughing @ your inferior sentence structure.

  • 18    IL ANSWP // Aug 2, 2007 at 11:10 pm

    I was in the top ten of my class. Your comments make you sound delusional. Now can you bring up the facts? Or must you continue to name call? You sound the ignorant hate monger to me. You hate the fact that whites are willing to stand together as a unified front. You hate the fact that we fight to preserve our race, nation, and heritage. I am 100% positive that third graders use the name calling campaign. Got any facts? It seems to me that your mentally ill. Your might want to get that checked. Or maybe your one of the 60 IQ negros. It would surprise me at all.

  • 19    ollie // Aug 3, 2007 at 7:12 am

    “It seems to me that your mentally ill”

    Uh, that is “you’re” as in, “you are”. ;)
    ————————–

    Actually, there are strong genetic arguments against racial superiority or of even having racial grouping to begin with; most differences are superficial (skin color) and there is far more genetic variation within people whose ancestors come from different regions of the world than BETWEEN those groups.

    http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/kron/archive/1998/02/23/race_part1.dtl&type=special

    Of course, sometimes genes can be used to trace back the origin of our ancestors, but that doesn’t work well for those who come from very mixed populations (such as many Americans)

    http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=000770CB-3D09-1FA8-BBAA83414B7F0000

  • 20    walt235 // Aug 3, 2007 at 7:29 am

    Everybody hates n.iggers! Lots of apes call themselves Moslems, here’s what Arabs say about them! BTW, most of the 60 million slaves in the world are in Africa and the Middle East and most of those are n.iggers! Why isn’t Jessie Jackoff and Fat Al whining about that on the jootube?!?

    “In both Arab and Iranian Islamic writings, blacks are accused of being stupid, untruthful, vicious, cowardly, sexually unbridled, ugly and distorted, excessively merry, and easily affected by food and drink.”

    Minoo Southgate, 1984, Negative Images of Blacks in Some Medieval Iranian Writings

    Quote:”The only people who accept [being enslaved] are the Negroes, owing to their low degree of humanity and proximity to the animal stage.”

    Abu Abdullah Muhammad Ibn Battuta, 14 century

    Quote:”Of the neighbors of the Bujja, Maqdisi had heard that “there is no marriage among them; the child does not know his father, and they eat people — but God knows best. As for the Zanj, they are people of black color, flat noses, kinky hair, and little understanding or intelligence.”

    Maqdisi, also known as Al-Muqaddasi (fl. 966 AD), Kitab al-Bad’ wah-tarikh, vol.4

    Quote:”The geographer al-Idrisi ascribes ‘lack of knowledge and defective minds’ to the black peoples. Their ignorance, he says, is notorious; men of learning and distinction are almost unknown among them, and their kings only acquire what they know about government and justice from the instruction of learned visitors from farther north.”

    Quote:”Like the crow among mankind are the Zanj for they are the worst of men and the most vicious of creatures in character and temperament.”

    Al Jahiz, Kitab al-Hayawan, vol. 2

    Quote:”[inhabitants of sub-Saharan African countries] are people distant from the standards of humanity” “Their nature is that of wild animals…”

    Persian geography Hudud al-`alam, 982 AD

    Quote:”We know that the Zanj (blacks) are the least intelligent and the least discerning of mankind, and the least capable of understanding the consequences of actions.”

    Jahiz (d. 868 AD), Kitab al-Bukhala (The Book of Misers)

    Quote:”They [the Shu`ubiyya] maintain that eloquence is prized by all people at all times – even the Zanj, despite their dimness, their boundless stupidity, their obtuseness, their crude perceptions and their evil dispositions, make long speeches.”

    Jahiz, Al-Bayan wa`l-tabyin, vol. 3

    Quote:”Galen says that merriment dominates the black man because of his defective brain, whence also the weakness of his intelligence.”

    Al-Masudi (d. 956 AD), Muruj al-dhahab

    Quote:”As regards southern countries, all their inhabitants are black on account of the heat of their climate… Most of them go naked… In all their lands and provinces, gold is found…. They are people distant from the standards of humanity.”

    Hudud al-`Alam, Persian geography, 982 AD

    Quote:”The Zanj are so uncivilized that they have no notion of a natural death. If a man dies a natural death, they think he was poisoned. Every death is suspicious with them, if a man has not been killed by a weapon.”

    Abu Rayhan al-Biruni, India, 1030 AD

    Quote:About the Zanj: “Their nature is that of wild animals. They are extremely black.” About the Sudan: “Among themselves there are people who steal each other’s children and sell them to the merchants when the latter arrive.”

    Hudud al-`Alam, 982 AD

    Quote:”If (all types of men) are taken, from the first, and one placed after another, like the Negro from Zanzibar, in the Southern-most countries, the Negro does not differ from an animal in anything except the fact that his hands have been lifted from the earth -in no other peculiarity or property – except for what God wished. Many have seen that the ape is more capable of being trained than the Negro, and more intelligent.”

    Philosopher-theologian Nasir al-Din Tusi (1201-74), Tasawwurat (Rawdat al-taslim)

    Quote:”Therefore, the Negro nation are, as a rule, submissive to slavery, because [Negroes] have little [that is essentially] human and have attributes that are quite similar to those of dumb animals, as we have stated.”

    Ibn Khaldun, Muqaddimah, 14th century AD

    Quote:”A man of discernment said: The people of Iraq … do not come out with something between blonde, buff and blanched coloring, such as the infants dropped from the wombs of the women of the Slavs and others of similar light complexion; nor are they overdone in the womb until they are burned, so that the child comes out something between black, murky, malodorous, stinking, and crinkly-haired, with uneven limbs, deficient minds, and depraved passions, such as the Zanj, the Somali, and other blacks who resemble them. The Iraqis are neither half-baked dough nor burned crust but between the two.”

    Ibn al-Faqih al-Hamadani, Mukhtasar Kitab al-Buldan, 903 AD

    Quote:”beyond [known peoples of black West Africa] to the south there is no civilization in the proper sense. There are only humans who are closer to dumb animals than to rational beings. They live in thickets and caves, and eat herbs and unprepared grain. They frequently eat each other. They cannot be considered human beings.”

    Ibn Khaldun, Muqaddimah

    Quote:”[Blacks] are ugly and misshapen, because they live in a hot country.”

    Baghdadi geographer Ibn Qutayba (828-89 A.D.)

    Quote:”The Zanj are slight-witted (kam ‘aql), and God, most high, has created them stupid, ignorant, and foul (palid).”

    anonymous, Iskandarnamah, 1343 AD

  • 21    Anon E. Mouse // Aug 3, 2007 at 8:44 am

    What a bunch of idiots.

    This is like some warped club with a treehouse and a rope swing with a secret code to keep the girls out so they won’t get cooties.
    14
    88
    5
    33/6
    18
    it is all so asinine

    http://www.adl.org/hate_symbols/numbers.asp

    Let me help you with a new one, boys.
    7 5 20 1 12 9 6 5
    or maybe we could just shorten it to “3″ – the three words that represent that which you should endeavor

  • 22    keep passing the open windows » Blog Archive // Aug 3, 2007 at 8:45 am

    [...] few local blogs have recently had postings by area white supremacists and it sickens me. The hatred, the [...]

  • 23    ollie // Aug 4, 2007 at 12:19 pm

    KnightinDragonland: evidently one of my responses got caught up in your spam filter (too many links)

    So here goes:

    as far as racist beliefs, many, (possibly most?) scientists who study genetics full time find the term “race” to be meaningless. Only a small number of genes determine the superficial features that are attributed to “race” (6 determine skin-color), and those who might appear to be similar on the surface (say, Africans and Australian Aboriginals) are as far apart in terms of genetic ancestry as, say, Africans and Europeans.

    Race is meaningful in terms of how a population with certain superficial traits are treated by the rest of the population, and such treatment DOES have an impact on how well they do in that society, health, etc.

    Sources: various Scientific American articles.

    Other comments:

    I find it interesting that people from the Virginia Nazi slumlord’s group think that they are intellectually superior to anyone; the following is a word for word post from one of their yahoogroups:

    - we need to get this shit tight.we are as loose as the whore no one
    wants to date.. i am going to be at evrey meeting after this one no
    more shit. i have to work ive not been able to make the money for 2
    months so with a 1500 a month nut i have to work but after july 26 i
    cant wait to meet you all.. there is no more options if you do not
    beleive in what you are standing for than do not be there, but if
    you do i am bringing something diffrent for our kids for you and for
    me .. no more shit we need to start sbreding the rite stuff and i
    beleive i have the rite stuff period.. be there for your kids rite
    to a future.. no more talk we need to tighten this bitch that is
    axactly what i intend to do or i will find another group that
    will… see you soon..

    Judge for yourself.

  • 24    knightindragonland // Aug 5, 2007 at 1:51 am

    I’ve been away from the blog for a day or two. It seems that I’ve popped up on the Nazi radar screen.

    Ollie,
    I rescued your original post from moderation. Sorry it took me a while.

    Anon,
    Clever and amusing as always. Seriously, Nazis, what’s with all the code talking? Why don’t you just say “Heil Hitler” instead of “88″??? Are you ashamed of your own behavior, or just cowardly?

    IL ANSWP,
    If you were in the “top ten of your class”, the state should immediately shut down your school as a complete educational failure. It’s not just a few spelling errors – you’re barely articulate, man. I do disagree with comparing you to a third grader … my seven year old types better than you, and she’ll be in 2nd grade. I guess you really did learn all you needed to know in kindergarten.

    Darren,
    Jake Grys teaches us all lessons about love, kindness, perseverance and the incredible power of an irrepressible smile. He teaches us that prejudices based on skin color or genetic disability are utter nonsense.

    Nazis teach us lessons, too … lessons about hate and fear and cowardice. I think I prefer Jake’s lesson plan.

    walt235,
    Thanks for the “lesson” that some Arabs are also hold racial prejudices against blacks as virulent as your own. I’m sure that recent happenings in Darfur aren’t lesson enough for anyone who cares to pay attention.

    And walt … I’m all about free speech and letting commenters post whatever the hell they want to say, despite how thoroughly disgusting I find your diatribe. If you want to display your hateful buffoonery to the world, go ahead. However, if you try to write an endless essay like that again, you’re going to get deleted.

  • 25    Ms. Teacher // Aug 5, 2007 at 1:55 am

    Wow, walt235, now that I realize your organization is using ancient quotes to back their arguments for superiority, I totally want to join. That seems completely valid and relevant to today’s world, and not at all stupid and completely baseless.

    Where do I sign up?

  • 26    ollie // Aug 5, 2007 at 5:49 am

    A couple of early morning comments:

    “Darren” is one of Bill White’s sockpuppets. Be easy on him; he had a rough weekend! :) (only one other supporter showed up at a rally he wanted to attend, the other Nazis didn’t want him in their area, and a police horse stepped on his foot!)

    (”eye on hate” is a good anti-racist website, and nikki’s nest is a good blogspot blog; I am not posting links so I won’t get sent to your spam filter!)

    phil88 is indeed Philip Anderson, who really did graduate in the top 10 at Peoria Heights High School this past May (do a PJ Star search for May, 2007)

  • 27    admin // Aug 5, 2007 at 10:41 pm

    Folks, don’t we all have better things to do than wallow in the muck with these losers in life’s lottery? They are loving every minute of this. Just ignore them. Or delete them.

  • 28    Anon E. Mouse // Aug 6, 2007 at 12:46 pm

    I disagree, Bill.

    I spend time picking empty tin cans off the fence posts with my .22 before I go hunting.

    These guys are just empty tin cans when it comes to the world of argumentation and debate.

  • 29    peoria1488 // Aug 29, 2007 at 12:14 am

    wow what nazis could it be that people in peoria are tired of seeing these once good middle class communities turn into shitholes i have no idea who would ever wanna change that from happening come on lets be real guys its about time someonne took a stand hail victory

  • 30    Knight in Dragonland // Aug 29, 2007 at 7:18 am

    How did you finish in the top ten without a basic understanding of punctuation and grammar?

    You stand for a retrograde, ignorant and fortunately dying world vision, Mr. Nazi. Urban degradation in this country is a complex issue that your mind obviously can’t wrap itself around. You reduce this complex issue to a simplistic black & white explanation. It’s really quite pathetic.

  • 31    IL ANSWP // Aug 29, 2007 at 5:52 pm

    Thats not me. Your attacks on others because of how they use English on the internet it petty. I really think that you are very delusional.

  • 32    Knight in Dragonland // Aug 29, 2007 at 9:33 pm

    I think the correlation between extremely poor use of grammar and ignorant, racist beliefs is more than just a coincidence. How exactly is that delusional?

  • 33    xanax bars // Jul 14, 2009 at 10:21 am

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    xanax…

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