xanax…

You stand for a retrograde, ignorant and fortunately dying world vision, Mr. Nazi. Urban degradation in this country is a complex issue that your mind obviously can’t wrap itself around. You reduce this complex issue to a simplistic black & white explanation. It’s really quite pathetic.

I spend time picking empty tin cans off the fence posts with my .22 before I go hunting.

These guys are just empty tin cans when it comes to the world of argumentation and debate.

“Darren” is one of Bill White’s sockpuppets. Be easy on him; he had a rough weekend! (only one other supporter showed up at a rally he wanted to attend, the other Nazis didn’t want him in their area, and a police horse stepped on his foot!)

(”eye on hate” is a good anti-racist website, and nikki’s nest is a good blogspot blog; I am not posting links so I won’t get sent to your spam filter!)

phil88 is indeed Philip Anderson, who really did graduate in the top 10 at Peoria Heights High School this past May (do a PJ Star search for May, 2007)

Where do I sign up?

Ollie,
I rescued your original post from moderation. Sorry it took me a while.

Anon,
Clever and amusing as always. Seriously, Nazis, what’s with all the code talking? Why don’t you just say “Heil Hitler” instead of “88″??? Are you ashamed of your own behavior, or just cowardly?

IL ANSWP,
If you were in the “top ten of your class”, the state should immediately shut down your school as a complete educational failure. It’s not just a few spelling errors – you’re barely articulate, man. I do disagree with comparing you to a third grader … my seven year old types better than you, and she’ll be in 2nd grade. I guess you really did learn all you needed to know in kindergarten.

Darren,
Jake Grys teaches us all lessons about love, kindness, perseverance and the incredible power of an irrepressible smile. He teaches us that prejudices based on skin color or genetic disability are utter nonsense.

Nazis teach us lessons, too … lessons about hate and fear and cowardice. I think I prefer Jake’s lesson plan.

walt235,
Thanks for the “lesson” that some Arabs are also hold racial prejudices against blacks as virulent as your own. I’m sure that recent happenings in Darfur aren’t lesson enough for anyone who cares to pay attention.

And walt … I’m all about free speech and letting commenters post whatever the hell they want to say, despite how thoroughly disgusting I find your diatribe. If you want to display your hateful buffoonery to the world, go ahead. However, if you try to write an endless essay like that again, you’re going to get deleted.

So here goes:

as far as racist beliefs, many, (possibly most?) scientists who study genetics full time find the term “race” to be meaningless. Only a small number of genes determine the superficial features that are attributed to “race” (6 determine skin-color), and those who might appear to be similar on the surface (say, Africans and Australian Aboriginals) are as far apart in terms of genetic ancestry as, say, Africans and Europeans.

Race is meaningful in terms of how a population with certain superficial traits are treated by the rest of the population, and such treatment DOES have an impact on how well they do in that society, health, etc.

Sources: various Scientific American articles.

Other comments:

I find it interesting that people from the Virginia Nazi slumlord’s group think that they are intellectually superior to anyone; the following is a word for word post from one of their yahoogroups:

- we need to get this shit tight.we are as loose as the whore no one
wants to date.. i am going to be at evrey meeting after this one no
more shit. i have to work ive not been able to make the money for 2
months so with a 1500 a month nut i have to work but after july 26 i
cant wait to meet you all.. there is no more options if you do not
beleive in what you are standing for than do not be there, but if
you do i am bringing something diffrent for our kids for you and for
me .. no more shit we need to start sbreding the rite stuff and i
beleive i have the rite stuff period.. be there for your kids rite
to a future.. no more talk we need to tighten this bitch that is
axactly what i intend to do or i will find another group that
will… see you soon..

Judge for yourself.

This is like some warped club with a treehouse and a rope swing with a secret code to keep the girls out so they won’t get cooties.
14
88
5
33/6
18
it is all so asinine

http://www.adl.org/hate_symbols/numbers.asp

Let me help you with a new one, boys.
7 5 20 1 12 9 6 5
or maybe we could just shorten it to “3″ – the three words that represent that which you should endeavor

“In both Arab and Iranian Islamic writings, blacks are accused of being stupid, untruthful, vicious, cowardly, sexually unbridled, ugly and distorted, excessively merry, and easily affected by food and drink.”

Minoo Southgate, 1984, Negative Images of Blacks in Some Medieval Iranian Writings

Quote:”The only people who accept [being enslaved] are the Negroes, owing to their low degree of humanity and proximity to the animal stage.”

Abu Abdullah Muhammad Ibn Battuta, 14 century

Quote:”Of the neighbors of the Bujja, Maqdisi had heard that “there is no marriage among them; the child does not know his father, and they eat people — but God knows best. As for the Zanj, they are people of black color, flat noses, kinky hair, and little understanding or intelligence.”

Maqdisi, also known as Al-Muqaddasi (fl. 966 AD), Kitab al-Bad’ wah-tarikh, vol.4

Quote:”The geographer al-Idrisi ascribes ‘lack of knowledge and defective minds’ to the black peoples. Their ignorance, he says, is notorious; men of learning and distinction are almost unknown among them, and their kings only acquire what they know about government and justice from the instruction of learned visitors from farther north.”

Quote:”Like the crow among mankind are the Zanj for they are the worst of men and the most vicious of creatures in character and temperament.”

Al Jahiz, Kitab al-Hayawan, vol. 2

Quote:”[inhabitants of sub-Saharan African countries] are people distant from the standards of humanity” “Their nature is that of wild animals…”

Persian geography Hudud al-`alam, 982 AD

Quote:”We know that the Zanj (blacks) are the least intelligent and the least discerning of mankind, and the least capable of understanding the consequences of actions.”

Jahiz (d. 868 AD), Kitab al-Bukhala (The Book of Misers)

Quote:”They [the Shu`ubiyya] maintain that eloquence is prized by all people at all times – even the Zanj, despite their dimness, their boundless stupidity, their obtuseness, their crude perceptions and their evil dispositions, make long speeches.”

Jahiz, Al-Bayan wa`l-tabyin, vol. 3

Quote:”Galen says that merriment dominates the black man because of his defective brain, whence also the weakness of his intelligence.”

Al-Masudi (d. 956 AD), Muruj al-dhahab

Quote:”As regards southern countries, all their inhabitants are black on account of the heat of their climate… Most of them go naked… In all their lands and provinces, gold is found…. They are people distant from the standards of humanity.”

Hudud al-`Alam, Persian geography, 982 AD

Quote:”The Zanj are so uncivilized that they have no notion of a natural death. If a man dies a natural death, they think he was poisoned. Every death is suspicious with them, if a man has not been killed by a weapon.”

Abu Rayhan al-Biruni, India, 1030 AD

Quote:About the Zanj: “Their nature is that of wild animals. They are extremely black.” About the Sudan: “Among themselves there are people who steal each other’s children and sell them to the merchants when the latter arrive.”

Hudud al-`Alam, 982 AD

Quote:”If (all types of men) are taken, from the first, and one placed after another, like the Negro from Zanzibar, in the Southern-most countries, the Negro does not differ from an animal in anything except the fact that his hands have been lifted from the earth -in no other peculiarity or property – except for what God wished. Many have seen that the ape is more capable of being trained than the Negro, and more intelligent.”

Philosopher-theologian Nasir al-Din Tusi (1201-74), Tasawwurat (Rawdat al-taslim)

Quote:”Therefore, the Negro nation are, as a rule, submissive to slavery, because [Negroes] have little [that is essentially] human and have attributes that are quite similar to those of dumb animals, as we have stated.”

Ibn Khaldun, Muqaddimah, 14th century AD

Quote:”A man of discernment said: The people of Iraq … do not come out with something between blonde, buff and blanched coloring, such as the infants dropped from the wombs of the women of the Slavs and others of similar light complexion; nor are they overdone in the womb until they are burned, so that the child comes out something between black, murky, malodorous, stinking, and crinkly-haired, with uneven limbs, deficient minds, and depraved passions, such as the Zanj, the Somali, and other blacks who resemble them. The Iraqis are neither half-baked dough nor burned crust but between the two.”

Ibn al-Faqih al-Hamadani, Mukhtasar Kitab al-Buldan, 903 AD

Quote:”beyond [known peoples of black West Africa] to the south there is no civilization in the proper sense. There are only humans who are closer to dumb animals than to rational beings. They live in thickets and caves, and eat herbs and unprepared grain. They frequently eat each other. They cannot be considered human beings.”

Ibn Khaldun, Muqaddimah

Quote:”[Blacks] are ugly and misshapen, because they live in a hot country.”

Baghdadi geographer Ibn Qutayba (828-89 A.D.)

Quote:”The Zanj are slight-witted (kam ‘aql), and God, most high, has created them stupid, ignorant, and foul (palid).”

anonymous, Iskandarnamah, 1343 AD

Uh, that is “you’re” as in, “you are”.
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Actually, there are strong genetic arguments against racial superiority or of even having racial grouping to begin with; most differences are superficial (skin color) and there is far more genetic variation within people whose ancestors come from different regions of the world than BETWEEN those groups.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/kron/archive/1998/02/23/race_part1.dtl&type=special

Of course, sometimes genes can be used to trace back the origin of our ancestors, but that doesn’t work well for those who come from very mixed populations (such as many Americans)

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=000770CB-3D09-1FA8-BBAA83414B7F0000